Want to know how many gun are in Maplewood? Good luck finding out.
After the tragedy of Newtown, Ct. occurred, a newspaper in Westchester
County published the names and addresses of all of those in the area that had
registered firearms.
This brought some opposition, but raised a good issue: Who has
firearms in each community?
I sought to find out how many firearms were in Maplewood, and who had
them.
Be clear, I had no intention of posting names and addresses of those with registered firearms, but sought the information so that I could report how
many firearms are registered in Maplewood and how many residents had firearms.
I did not realize such a request would prove fruitless due to state
law that prohibits such data from being released.
I began with a simple public records request to the Township of Maplewood,
which has been very helpful and remains so on the public records requests I
have made in the recent past.
When I submitted a request for a list of those with firearms registered
in Maplewood, I received the following response from Township Clerk Liz
Fritzen:
I
am in receipt of your request for Open Public Records as follows:
“I
am requesting a list of all firearms registered in Maplewood to Maplewood residents,
documents for each registered firearm filed with the Township.”
There is no individual “list of
firearms registrations” document that exists in the Maplewood Police
Department. As to the request for “documents for each registered firearm filed
with the Township”, the Chief of Police has reported to me that there are over
2,000 Police Department files that would contain multiple documents related to
each firearm investigation and a registration form.
The request would require a hand search of
each of some 2,000 file folders to find, review, redact, and copy each registration
document individually. That process would conservatively take an estimated time
of approximately 200 hours and would take several weeks to complete.
At a
clerical workers rate that would amount to approximately $2,400.00 in special
processing time charges plus copy charges to process your Open Public Records
Act request.
Prior
to any work being initiated on your request you need to advise me in writing as
to how you wish to proceed. The figure of $2,400.00 in clerical time is
approximate. Any copies are an
additional .05 cents per page.
I
await your reply. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to
contact me.
Very
truly yours,
Elizabeth
J. Fritzen
Township
Clerk
It is understandable that the township has limited resources and
manpower to go searching for individual records, although it surprised me that
such data was not readily available on a computer somewhere. One would think
such data is filed into computer resources for quick retrieval.
In an effort to bypass the need for individual file reviews, I then
submitted another public records request asking for two pieces of data.
1.
The number of firearms registered in Maplewood.
2.
The number of residents with registered fire arms.
This again was denied as per the letter received below:
Dear
Mr. Strupp:
This
will serve as a response to your additional question on the above named subject
previously responded to.
Please
be advised that there is no such listing. The Township does not make lists, we
supply documents, and there is no such document.
Very
truly yours,
Elizabeth
J. Fritzen
Township
Clerk
If the letter of the law states that only the release of documents is
covered by the public records act, it seemed that the township would be unable,
or unwilling, to provide this simple information.
I then turned to the County of Essex, with requests to the County
Executive’s Office, the Sheriff and the County Prosecutor. None of them were
able to provide the simple answer to how many firearms are registered in Maplewood.
The Sheriff’s Office recommended the State Police of New Jersey. When
I reached out to the State Police media relations office, I was told that state
law bars the state police from releasing the information.
He cited this portion of the state law, which indicates the registrations are not public record:
N.J.A.C. 13:54-1.15 Confidentiality of background investigations, permits, firearms identification cards, licenses, certifications, certificates, forms of register, registration statements and applications.
Any background investigation conducted by the chief of police, the Superintendent or the
He cited this portion of the state law, which indicates the registrations are not public record:
N.J.A.C. 13:54-1.15 Confidentiality of background investigations, permits, firearms identification cards, licenses, certifications, certificates, forms of register, registration statements and applications.
Any background investigation conducted by the chief of police, the Superintendent or the
county prosecutor, of any applicant for a permit, firearms identification card license, or registration,
in accordance with the requirements of this chapter, is not a public record and shall not be disclosed to any person not authorized by law or this chapter to have access to such investigation, including
the applicant.
Any application for a permit, firearms identification card, or license, and any
document reflecting the issuance or denial of such permit, firearms identification card, or license,
and any permit, firearms identification card, license, certification, certificate, form of register, or
registration statement, maintained by any State or municipal governmental agency, is not a public
record and shall not be disclosed to any person not authorized by law or this chapter to have access
to such documentation, including the applicant, except on the request of persons acting in their
governmental capacities for purposes of the administration of justice
When I reminded the person that I was not seeking personal information
about the firearm owners, just the data on how many there are, I was told that
is barred under that state law as well.
So at a time when gun rights and gun control is a major issue, it is apparently
impossible to find out how many of our neighbors own guns, and how many own
more than one.
54 comments:
It is none of your business. That is why the information is not made available to you. Reality is the likelihood of a registered firearm causing any injury within the township vs from an unregistered firearm is slim.
How many knifes are there in Maplewood? What about axes? How about baseball bats? Let's get a count of every gas can.
Bottom line: If someone in Maplewood wants to go off the reservation and do something heinous and deadly like happened in CT they will find a way. The best line of defense is same as with foreign terror threats. If you see something, say something. It comes down to friends, family, neighbors etc. reporting odd and suspicious behavior. Even that is not 100% but focusing on guns is a fools errand.
Yes, but knives, axes, baseball bats and gas cans are not considered deadly enough to require they be registered.
Oh they are certainly deadly enough if used with intent. And in many cases easier to conceal.
What about cars? Cars can certainly be deadly and they are registered. Because some people show a lack of good judgement and drive drunk should we restrict car ownership of anyone who drinks?
It is a slippery slope when you try to manage/restrict the rights of law abiding citizens because of the actions of a few bad people. Going back to the original post, the only reason to find the total number of registered firearms is if you wanted to use that information to press for a restriction on or prohibition of gun ownership. Prohibition has been tried, many times and it doesn't work. Anyone who disagrees with that statement I would ask this question? Did you ever consume alcohol before you were legally allowed to do so? Have you ever smoked pot?
We can't control the number of unregistered, illegal guns on the streets now. So explain to me the logic of focusing attention and resources on registered gun owners. when you have all the illegal guns accounted for, come back to the gun owners and restate your case. Until stay out of our business.
Lol, because eveey registered gun owner is a law abiding citizen. In all honesty, most gun owners are law abiding citizens; the reason for that? Namely, there are hardly any laws on guns. If you don't know this, you're a fool. I have to prove so much more when trying to purchase a vehicle. The difference between the millions of bats and guns in this country? Bats used as weapons kill less people, take more time and effort, than killing someone with a gun. Legal or not. Guns have the ability to kill several people in SECONDS, and require less effort. IF you happen to forget, there were TWENTY CHILDREN GUN DOWNED IN MINUTES in CT!!
But please, remind is how laws on your guns leave you incapble of going about your day. We have to have these lax gun laws because there are so many illegal guns being circulated due to these terrible gun laws, oh Please. If you cannot understand the difference between a GUN and a bat or knife, you shouldn't LEGALLY own a gun.
But then again, if you cant legally purchase a gun, im sure you can get one, second-hand and unregistered in your name. If you think this is falls, tell me, how many illegal guns are there in inner cities. How do they get there? The guns are brought in from places with more lax gun laws.
This is not a slippery slope idea, this is common sense.
Wasnt it a slippery slope to allow automatic weapons in civilian hands? Wouldn't there be more gun violence with more guns in the country?
Oh we have the right to own guns. Thanks guns! Rather than my children in the hospital due to a stabbing my child is dead because of a gun shot.
Didn't know a bat was easier to conceal than a gun.
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